Harley electric

anotherguy · Post by **anotherguy** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:37 am

For those who dismiss electric bikes on range issues a Swiss rider has done an SS1000 on a Harley-Davidson LiveWire. Forget the cost and look at the bike. Ride one.......we have a demo and want people to ride one and experience the bike. It's a fun ride and nice bike Beyond that. If you really want to ride one PM me and I'll set ya up with a demo ride......that is if you're close enough for practicality.

An objective review.

http://youtu.be/kIYFXb0lyFY

campfire · Post by **campfire** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:56 am

So, during the shelter in place orders currently out, can you drop one off at the house and I can ride it around the living room?

Asking for a friend.

(YES! I'm freaking bored out of my mind)

campfire · Post by **campfire** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:00 am

But seriously, it is a nice looking bike.
The "Heartbeat" feature is a nice touch to let you know that it's activated and ready.
And a 100 mile range? That can get you anywhere here in the San Francisco Bay Area, and there are charge stations EVERYWHERE here. (helps to have Tesla around for that)

Delicate Snowflake · Post by **Delicate Snowflake** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:23 pm

Are Tesla power plugs the same as HD ?

anotherguy · Post by **anotherguy** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:41 pm

Yeah the level 3 charging is standardized. However it should be used prudently as it has a negative affect on battery life. Level 1 household (120V AC over here) is best but takes overnight. Battery replacement is expensive to say the least.

Delicate Snowflake · Post by **Delicate Snowflake** » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:19 am

Interesting... here the Tesla plug is special, and only for Teslas. Hmm.

Overnight slow charging would seem best [thinking about batteries generally].

MrKiwi · Post by **MrKiwi** » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:42 am

An overpriced, underwhelming piece of machinery. Just my view.

anotherguy · Post by **anotherguy** » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:02 am

MrKiwi wrote:An overpriced, underwhelming piece of machinery. Just my view.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance — that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

MrKiwi · Post by **MrKiwi** » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:59 pm

except I know a lot about EVs, cars and bikes. I work in the sector. So I am hardly ignorant.

Opinion is opinion, which is what I expressed. Neither right nor wrong, just opinion.

BUT, why spend so much money on the HD livewire when there are other options that cost less, go further and probably are better made.

anotherguy · Post by **anotherguy** » Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:33 pm

You appear to have formed an opinion without ever experiencing the vehicle in question,probably not even setting eyes upon one. Not exactly a scientific approach. Nor did you watch the video. Showa Big Piston forks,Showa Triple adjustable Cushion Light shock,Brembo Monobloc brakes,Michelin tires......all top shelf components. State of the art traction control,ABS,anti-wheelie/stoppie functions all controlled by a 6 axis Bosch IMU. It's certainly not poorly made. As I posted before "contempt before investigation." Go ride one and then form an opinion. You may not be an ignorant person but you are ignorant when it comes to this motorcycle.

MrKiwi · Post by **MrKiwi** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:27 pm

anotherguy wrote:You appear to have formed an opinion without ever experiencing the vehicle in question,probably not even setting eyes upon one. Not exactly a scientific approach. Nor did you watch the video. Showa Big Piston forks,Showa Triple adjustable Cushion Light shock,Brembo Monobloc brakes,Michelin tires......all top shelf components. State of the art traction control,ABS,anti-wheelie/stoppie functions all controlled by a 6 axis Bosch IMU. It's certainly not poorly made. As I posted before "contempt before investigation." Go ride one and then form an opinion. You may not be an ignorant person but you are ignorant when it comes to this motorcycle.

face palm thingy

Delicate Snowflake · Post by **Delicate Snowflake** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:42 pm

Note I am a curmudgeon, my Triumph still has carbs for example.

But... more broadly [and not brand/model specific] - are EV's going to take over / become the main engine in Motorcycles? Is that where we're headed?

And as several of you work currently in the industry... how fast is this coming? Are we seeing concept vehicles getting to on-road availability, or is this is near future?

Ta.

anotherguy · Post by **anotherguy** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:19 pm

MrKiwi wrote:

face palm thingy

Got something to say speak up we're adults here.

anotherguy · Post by **anotherguy** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:22 pm

Delicate Snowflake wrote:Note I am a curmudgeon, my Triumph still has carbs for example.

But... more broadly [and not brand/model specific] - are EV's going to take over / become the main engine in Motorcycles? Is that where we're headed?

And as several of you work currently in the industry... how fast is this coming? Are we seeing concept vehicles getting to on-road availability, or is this is near future?

Ta.

I believe it will be a slow integration into the mainstream as acceptance and product mature. Gasoline is still relatively cheap and easy to obtain. Societal change typically moves at a glacial pace because ingrained habits are difficult to break or modify. Depending on your age you may not see it. Don't think I will.

Tripped1 · Post by **Tripped1** » Wed May 27, 2020 6:34 am

Don't matter how good it rides if I have to stop for 8 hours to recharge it.

......that isn't Harley specific, its just not my ride.

campfire · Post by **campfire** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:08 am

Started watching "Long Way Up" , and I'm up to episode three. The cold is not a friend of the electrics.

Great show. If you can, watch it for the scenery at least.

LadyDraco · Post by **LadyDraco** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:46 am

campfire wrote:Started watching "Long Way Up" , and I'm up to episode three. The cold is not a friend of the electrics.

Great show. If you can, watch it for the scenery at least.

Where are you seeing it ???

campfire · Post by **campfire** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:29 am

LadyDraco wrote:
campfire wrote:Started watching "Long Way Up" , and I'm up to episode three. The cold is not a friend of the electrics.

Great show. If you can, watch it for the scenery at least.
Where are you seeing it ???

I bought a new iPhone a while back and it comes with 1 year of "free" Apple TV. The series is on there in 7a few episodes.

I think they stated this in 2018, and finished it up last year. The logistics of the charging stations was a huge undertaking, along with trying to find "household" outlets in South America with enough amperage to charge the bikes. It seems freezing temps makes charging the bikes shut down completely, and making a 13,000 mile trip 100 miles at a time between charging is the adventure.

Here's one review of it from a riders perspective.
https://www.rideapart.com/articles/4430 ... es-review/

The scenery is awesome as usual, but I'm not enjoying it as much as Long Way Round. Still good though.

campfire · Post by **campfire** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:09 am

Good series!

Again, really recommending it for all riders!!!!!

(getting impressed with those Livewires)

MrKiwi · Post by **MrKiwi** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:20 pm

yeah nah.

Two things wrong with it. It is Charely and what his face, and they are riding Harley's.

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